Titan Poker and Europartner Scam
I know the title is pretty strong, but after speaking with a few AM’s and fellow affiliates. I think the title fits perfectly. I promoted Titan Poker when they first came out, made some money, never got paid.
A quick google search will show you that people all over the world have had serious issues with Titan Poker/Europartners. Including members of GPWA, PAP, CAP, PAL.
So here’s what hapepned
About 8-12 months ago, a company contacted me trying to get me to promote Titan – After some back and forth, we finally agreed.
We spent a lot of money, close to 5k+ in content, translations, promo’s etc. Everything seemed to be going well. That is, until we asked for payment. Initially they seemed to ignore our request for payment, and after several emails of saying “hey, we’d appreciate being paid” – Then we were informed they thought our players were “low value”.
Seemed a little funny that nothing has been said for almost 6 months??????
So we basically said, we would just take them down. BUT >>> – They contacted us and asked us to continue promoting, and of course we explained that WE thought we were being taken advantage of (screwed).
The AM said if we took them down, there was ZERO chance of every seeing payment. But said that if we promoted them another month, updated everything, pushed their latest promo, he would see about getting us paid.
So, faced with no return on our investment, versus maybe getting some back. We agreed, updated everything, sent some more players. All the while Pablo not understanding why we are hesitant to send ANY players there.
Of course as Titan always does, they want “Top Position” lol – Of course they apparent don’t pay people, but they want top position…….
We noticed something funny, while we were showing qualified signups/conversions – Our balance stayed at 0$ – I asked our AM about this, I’m sure you can guess the reply. He also finally confirmed we won’t be seeing any of our money. Which is well over 10K + at this point.
Update: These idiots are STILL asking us to send more players, saying they WILL give us partial payment. Of course we have to take this post down LOL – I told them to go to hell
Now, I know there are a lot of thread with people complaining that “w/e poker room won’t pay me” – But, keep in mind we send literally hundreds of players to the largest poker rooms each month via CPA’s - Sure we have 1 or maybe two players that are removed for fraud. 1 or 2 our of several hundred a month – To rooms that are very strict about this stuff. So, we know we send good traffic, and we worked closely with all the rooms we promote to ensure we maintain high quality traffic.
Again, don’t just take my word for it, Google Titan Poker Fraud or Scam
So after asking around, including the company that sent us to these guys. It seems nobody gets paid, and this is standard practice for these guys. I’m sure their are exceptions, but looks like there is a common theme with Europartners.
So, now we have 3 sites with a ton of content on it, translations, etc. So instead of just removing them. I’m going to ensure everyone knows what type of operation these guys run. Complete with the messages and emails these guys sent.
I don’t plan on posting an opinions or any of that, I think their messages and emails with convey the type of business they run. Then the players can decide if that is the type of place they want to put their money on, and mostly importantly trust their money too.
There was serious “Red Flags” when they pretty much forced us to continue to promote them another month or so. I didn’t expect to get paid, but wanted to at least let it play out. Losing the money we invested, 5k+, plus the commissions we earned and will never see 10k+ – This makes this an expensive $15,000+ lesson we learned. But if my sites, or this posts keeps someone form being Ripped / Scammed off by Europartners – Then it’s well worth it.